Discussion:
Announcing the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0
Robert O'Hara
2009-07-09 19:25:27 UTC
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Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up all of the modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380 Yahoo groups since the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.

The base operating system is IBM's VM/370 Release 6 operating system, the last unlicensed version of VM/370. It is designed to run on the Hercules Emulator.

New features of the "SixPack" include:

o The Gnu C Compiler, with both a "traditional" runtime library
(PDPCLIB) and a "native CMS" runtime library (GCCLIB).
Type HELP GCC for information on compiling C programs.

o An up-to-date, accurate, and fairly complete help system.

o Enhancements to the CP, LISTFILE and QUERY commands to support
placing output of those commands on the CMS stack.

o Extended parameter list support, meaning it is possible to pass
mixed-case parameters to EXECs and C programs. The EMIT
command lets you type messages from within EXECs without
truncation at 8 characters.

o Current line highlighting and multifile editing in EDIT.

o Other programs such as DIFF, FLIST, RESLIB, SCAN, VMARC are all
available on the CMS Y disk.

o A 3270 terminal emulator is included in case you don't already
have one.

This version now occupies six 3350 disk packs. The sixth pack is entirely devoted to CMSUSER (password of CMSUSER), where we suggest you login to do your work. Thus you can backup by simply copying the shadow file for the sixth pack.


This version of VM/370 is brought to you by Robert O'Hara, Paul Edwards, and Dave Wade. It is based on earlier versions of VM/370 for Hercules developed by Andy Norrie and Paul Gorlinsky.

vm370sixpack-1_0.zip is available for download from http://www.open-bpm.org/index.php/mainframes.html

Regards, Bob O'Hara
Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2009-07-09 20:13:41 UTC
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Post by Robert O'Hara
Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up all of the
modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380 Yahoo groups since
the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.
The base operating system is IBM's VM/370 Release 6 operating system, the
last unlicensed version of VM/370. It is designed to run on the Hercules
Emulator.
I grabbed it, and it's looking good so far. I had to fix up the config file
to use '/' as the path delimiter instead of '\' as I use Linux, but other
than that, so far so good.

Thanks!

In case anyone cares, I put a copy of the .zip file on my server - no
registration required to get it :)

http://www.josefsipek.net/mirrors/vm370/vm370sixpack-1_0.zip

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek.
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Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:11:40
Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2009-07-11 06:54:17 UTC
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Post by Robert O'Hara
Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up all of the
modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380 Yahoo groups since
the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.
I've got a bug report or two for you...

I just IPL'd the system (2 GRAFs connected), ran 'enable all' on the
operator console, then I logged in on one GRAF as cmsuser, and then the
following session happened:

def graf 123 3270
Y (19E) R/O
U (19D) R/O
* PF3 = FILE
* PF7 = UP 8
* PF8 = DOWN 8
[snip]
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Welcome to VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0! |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

For a list of CMS commands, type HELP CMSCMDS. For a list of CP commands, type
HELP CPCMDS.

For more help, type HELP WELCOME ( MORE
Unknown CMS command
def graf 123 3270
GRAF 123 DEFINED
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 06:45:03
q v graf
GRAF 123 NOT READY
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 06:45:24


Now, from the other GRAF connected to hercules, I tried to 'dial cmsuser
123' at which point the operator console shows:

06:45:59 DMKDMP908I SYSTEM FAILURE; CODE FRE013 PROCESSOR 00

VM/370 System Restart

And CP loads up again.

1) I suppose VM isn't supposed to restart on me like that :)

2) Why did the help come up the first time I used DEFINE but not the second
time?

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, or maybe they're bugs - either way,
comments are welcome :)

Jeff.
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Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
definition, not smart enough to debug it.
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kerravon86
2009-07-11 11:13:21 UTC
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Post by Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
Post by Robert O'Hara
Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up
all of the
modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380
Yahoo groups since
the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.
I've got a bug report or two for you...
I just IPL'd the system (2 GRAFs connected), ran 'enable all' on the
operator console, then I logged in on one GRAF as cmsuser, and
then the
def graf 123 3270
Y (19E) R/O
| Welcome to VM/370 "SixPack" version
For more help, type HELP WELCOME ( MORE
Unknown CMS command
I've noticed this sequence too, but as far as I'm
aware it's always been like that (ie with vmdist).
For some reason you have to hit enter or something
before the rest of the logon messages come up.

I normally use a .rc file that has a "set blip off"
in it as the first command after logon, and that
seems to mask things for my normal usage so it's
never bothered me enough to ask.
Post by Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
06:45:59 DMKDMP908I SYSTEM FAILURE; CODE FRE013 PROCESSOR 00
VM/370 System Restart
Did you get this behaviour with vmdist?

BFN. Paul.
Dave Wade
2009-07-11 12:14:26 UTC
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-----Original Message-----
Of kerravon86
Sent: 11 July 2009 12:13
Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Announcing the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0
Post by Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
Post by Robert O'Hara
Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up
all of the
modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380
Yahoo groups since
the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.
I've got a bug report or two for you...
I just IPL'd the system (2 GRAFs connected), ran 'enable all' on the
operator console, then I logged in on one GRAF as cmsuser, and
then the
def graf 123 3270
Y (19E) R/O
| Welcome to VM/370 "SixPack" version
For more help, type HELP WELCOME ( MORE
Unknown CMS command
I've noticed this sequence too, but as far as I'm
aware it's always been like that (ie with vmdist).
For some reason you have to hit enter or something
before the rest of the logon messages come up.
It's a "quirk". From what I remember on ALL VM systems prior to SP5 the IPL
process issues a console read. At this point one usually just presses
"enter" and the IPL proceeds. You can also issue "ACCESS (NOPROF" which
causes a normal IPL but no "profile exec" is run, or "SAVESYS CMS" which
causes the CMS system to be saved.

At VM/SP5 changes were made to allow "AUTOCR" to be passed as an IPL
parameter, so it became possible logon with no pause. At the same time it
was made possible to override the default IPL parms...
I normally use a .rc file that has a "set blip off"
in it as the first command after logon, and that
seems to mask things for my normal usage so it's
never bothered me enough to ask.
Post by Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
06:45:59 DMKDMP908I SYSTEM FAILURE; CODE FRE013 PROCESSOR 00
VM/370 System Restart
we used to get this on DIAL .....
... and it still seems to be the case
Did you get this behaviour with vmdist?
BFN. Paul.
Also still get PROG775 when using IBM's Personal Communications 3270
Emulator ....
Alexey Bozrikov
2009-07-21 10:21:57 UTC
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Post by kerravon86
I normally use a .rc file that has a "set blip off"
in it as the first command after logon, and that
seems to mask things for my normal usage so it's
never bothered me enough to ask.
Post by Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
06:45:59 DMKDMP908I SYSTEM FAILURE; CODE FRE013 PROCESSOR 00
VM/370 System Restart
we used to get this on DIAL .....
... and it still seems to be the case
Post by kerravon86
Did you get this behaviour with vmdist?
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.

Alex




** A nuclear war can ruin your whole day.
Robert O'Hara
2009-07-21 14:52:44 UTC
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Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Alex,

I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I will investigate this in the next couple of days.

Bob
pfg504
2009-07-22 15:23:41 UTC
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Bob;
This has already been fixed... The file is located in the files section of the 4 pack section. The bug in an IBM bug that was never fixed. The FRE013 abend catches mismatches between DMSFREE and DMSFRET requests. The fix has been available for 4-5 years if people would just take the time to look...

Paul
Post by Robert O'Hara
Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Alex,
I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I will investigate this in the next couple of days.
Bob
pfg504
2009-07-22 15:26:32 UTC
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The link for the fix is
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cClnSlDTrXeXyz95S2fga6eBenpIWOTXI7OA_wcZRX1fFnkaMJgAcKcn4Z1sUQiYlP_kHDf8xEj6zxeXbLD3WQ/Fixes%20and%20Enhancments%20to%20CP%2C%20CMS%2C%20IPCS%2C%20RSCS%2C%20etc./dmkdia_101.zip

PS. There are other fixes in the same folder. One is to handle a VMFPLC2 issue between z/VM and VM/370...

Paul
Post by pfg504
Bob;
This has already been fixed... The file is located in the files section of the 4 pack section. The bug in an IBM bug that was never fixed. The FRE013 abend catches mismatches between DMSFREE and DMSFRET requests. The fix has been available for 4-5 years if people would just take the time to look...
Paul
Post by Robert O'Hara
Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Alex,
I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I will investigate this in the next couple of days.
Bob
Robert O'Hara
2009-07-24 22:07:59 UTC
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Post by pfg504
The link for the fix is
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cClnSlDTrXeXyz95S2fga6eBenpIWOTXI7OA_wcZRX1fFnkaMJgAcKcn4Z1sUQiYlP_kHDf8xEj6zxeXbLD3WQ/Fixes%20and%20Enhancments%20to%20CP%2C%20CMS%2C%20IPCS%2C%20RSCS%2C%20etc./dmkdia_101.zip
PS. There are other fixes in the same folder. One is to handle a VMFPLC2 issue between z/VM and VM/370...
Paul
Thanks! I will add all of these fixes to the next update.

Bob

kerravon86
2009-07-22 22:41:18 UTC
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Post by pfg504
Bob;
This has already been fixed... The file is located in the
files section of the 4 pack section. The bug in an IBM bug
that was never fixed. The FRE013 abend catches mismatches
between DMSFREE and DMSFRET requests. The fix has been
available for 4-5 years if people would just take the time
to look...
Paul, thanks for the fix. Is there any reason this
didn't make it into vmdist? People normally assume
that the latest distribution already contains all
known fixes and don't go back in time.

BTW, your link doesn't work as-is, but contains the
filename, which does the trick. :-)

BFN. Paul.
Post by pfg504
Post by Robert O'Hara
Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Alex,
I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I will investigate this in the next couple of days.
Bob
kerravon86
2009-07-22 22:42:13 UTC
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Post by pfg504
Bob;
This has already been fixed... The file is located in the
files section of the 4 pack section. The bug in an IBM bug
that was never fixed. The FRE013 abend catches mismatches
between DMSFREE and DMSFRET requests. The fix has been
available for 4-5 years if people would just take the time
to look...
Paul, thanks for the fix. Is there any reason this
didn't make it into vmdist? People normally assume
that the latest distribution already contains all
known fixes and don't go back in time.

BTW, your link doesn't work as-is, but contains the
filename, which does the trick. :-)

BFN. Paul.
Post by pfg504
Post by Robert O'Hara
Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters. On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Alex,
I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I will investigate this in the next couple of days.
Bob
Dave Wade
2009-07-22 23:54:44 UTC
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It never made it because the base was never updated. There is a fix for the
PCOMMS problem in the same place...

Dave
G4UGM
-----Original Message-----
Of kerravon86
Sent: 22 July 2009 23:42
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Post by pfg504
Bob;
This has already been fixed... The file is located in the
files section of the 4 pack section. The bug in an IBM bug
that was never fixed. The FRE013 abend catches mismatches
between DMSFREE and DMSFRET requests. The fix has been
available for 4-5 years if people would just take the time
to look...
Paul, thanks for the fix. Is there any reason this
didn't make it into vmdist? People normally assume
that the latest distribution already contains all
known fixes and don't go back in time.
BTW, your link doesn't work as-is, but contains the
filename, which does the trick. :-)
BFN. Paul.
Post by pfg504
Post by Robert O'Hara
Post by Alexey Bozrikov
I remember that DIAL command worked on the original 'VM 4-pack
system'. At least I was able to DIAL CPWATCH and see performance counters.
On the SixPack it gives an immediate FRE013 and restart.
Post by pfg504
Post by Robert O'Hara
Alex,
I am on a sailboat right now with limited Internet connectivity :-) I
will investigate this in the next couple of days.
Post by pfg504
Post by Robert O'Hara
Bob
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Robert O'Hara
2009-07-23 18:33:34 UTC
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Post by Dave Wade
It never made it because the base was never updated. There is a fix for the
PCOMMS problem in the same place...
Dave
G4UGM
I will put this on the list of things to fix for version 1.1...

Bob
stasicontainer
2009-07-23 07:46:51 UTC
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Post by Robert O'Hara
Now available, the VM/370 "SixPack" version 1.0 rolls up all of the modifications posted on the H390-VM and Hercules-os380 Yahoo groups since the "5-pack" system was released in 2006.
The base operating system is IBM's VM/370 Release 6 operating system, the last unlicensed version of VM/370. It is designed to run on the Hercules Emulator.
.......
Post by Robert O'Hara
This version of VM/370 is brought to you by Robert O'Hara, Paul Edwards, and Dave Wade. It is based on earlier versions of VM/370 for Hercules developed by Andy Norrie and Paul Gorlinsky.
vm370sixpack-1_0.zip is available for download from http://www.open-bpm.org/index.php/mainframes.html
Regards, Bob O'Hara
Hi,
i had downloaded this File and it seems to run. When i read the Config File i see that the DASD's
of MVS380 are included but commented out. I have MVS 380 running
and i want to integrate it into VM380.
Can anyone gives me a short description how i can do that?
Thanks for Help.
Wilfried
kerravon86
2009-07-23 13:33:12 UTC
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Post by stasicontainer
of MVS380 are included but commented out. I have MVS 380 running
and i want to integrate it into VM380.
Can anyone gives me a short description how i can do that?
I haven't seen anyone reporting having done that.
So perhaps you can document it as you try? :-)

Reminds me of Blackadder sailing around the ocean
and being given a "map" by the leading cartogrophers
to fill in as he went along.

BFN. Paul.
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